E524 – Jeff Couillard & Pablo Romero, The New Dynamics of Power in Leadership
“Power is just the ability to affect change. It’s neutral. What matters is how you use it.”
In today's workplace, positional authority is no longer enough. True leadership requires empathy, reflection, and a willingness to reexamine the systems we operate within. In this episode, co-CEOs of The Ally Co—Jeff Couillard and Pablo Romero—join Tyler Chisholm to discuss how their Calgary-based consultancy is helping leaders rethink power, reimagine allyship, and create cultures where trust is more than just a value on the wall. Together, they explore how silence can be more dangerous than conflict, why co-leadership creates built-in accountability, and how their own working relationship models the change they help others pursue. The conversation is honest, nuanced, and refreshingly human—reminding us that organizational transformation doesn't start with strategy. It starts with people. For anyone navigating leadership, change, or team dynamics, this is a masterclass in building better ways to work—together.